They both have brain damage, caused by their mothers drinking alcohol in pregnancy.
"I'm sure there's lots of mothers out there that know that they drank. They're too scared to come forward because it's a shameful thing." Claire H, mother who drank alcohol while pregnant
In this confronting story, we take you into the lives of three everyday Australian families grappling with the consequences of drinking in pregnancy.
The children face a devastating range of problems, from behavioural issues to learning difficulties, collectively known as Foetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder.
And it's much more common than you might think. Best projections indicate it could affect more than half a million Australians.
"I think the burden... is predominantly in the white middle class." Paediatrician